INTERVIEW: Kim Ghattas

A bird sits by a Saudi Arabia's flag on the roof top of Saudi Arabia's consulate in Istanbul, Sunday, Oct. 14, 2018. Writer Jamal Khashoggi vanished after he walked into the consulate on Oct. 2. (AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)

Pat talks with Author Kim Ghattas, about her book “Black Wave: Saudi Arabia, Iran & the Forty-Year Rivalry that Unraveled Culture, Religion & Collective Memory”: